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Jun. 15th, 2009 11:23 amThis weekend I went to my parents' in order to watch my Uncle perform in Oliver! as Fagin (not in the West End, unfortunately, just the local amdram people.). It was very good, yay Uncle!
Someone somewhere last week posted asking about the attitudes in films towards consent and such stuff (I forget who, sorry, I suck like that). Anyway, in this regard Oliver is a BIG PILE OF FAIL. There's the "I shall scream Mr Bumble" song, where whatserface (later Mrs Bumble and I'm sure she has a name but I suck at names) is clearly saying "no" whilst meaning "yes" (and whilst I do think that this is a valid thing to do *with prior, clear, negotiation* I think it's pretty silly otherwise). And of course Nancy is basically your typical Abused Girlfriend, who is somehow still devoted to Bill, of course this turns out to be a Really Bad Thing for her.
Also Fagin is *creepy*.
Someone somewhere last week posted asking about the attitudes in films towards consent and such stuff (I forget who, sorry, I suck like that). Anyway, in this regard Oliver is a BIG PILE OF FAIL. There's the "I shall scream Mr Bumble" song, where whatserface (later Mrs Bumble and I'm sure she has a name but I suck at names) is clearly saying "no" whilst meaning "yes" (and whilst I do think that this is a valid thing to do *with prior, clear, negotiation* I think it's pretty silly otherwise). And of course Nancy is basically your typical Abused Girlfriend, who is somehow still devoted to Bill, of course this turns out to be a Really Bad Thing for her.
Also Fagin is *creepy*.