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[naath]

I have a project, it's a bit silly, and also a bit unfinished, but Imma share snippits.

Died on this day in 1387 at the age of 54 - King Charles the Second of Navarre (my toy, wikipedia).

Charles was the father of Joan of Navarre, who was Queen of England (married Henry IV, no children); his descendants include Kings of Navarre and France, his ancestors include many Kings of England (as well as other places).

In the 14th century names were apparently scare. His mother was called Joan, his wife was called Joan, he had a daughter called Joan, and at least one grandchild called Joan. Two sisters (yes, two sisters with the same name, yes, they both lived to be adults) and a sister-in-law called Joanna too...

Born on this day in 1511 to Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon a son, Henry (my toy, wikipedia). One of many children born to Catherine who did not survive to see their first birthday (at least two called Henry).

Comments

[emperor]

Neat :)

I find some of the output a bit confusing, e.g. for your first person it says:

Style: King of Navarre
Territories:
Queen Joan II of Navarre|King of Navarre|King Charles III of Navarre
From: 1349
To: 1387

Why are those 3 people listed as Territories?

[also, I think I have some bugs in your smallGraph.py, would you like a bug report by email about those?]

[naath]

I like bug reports by email; or I loose track. (but if its "the lines are not in the optimal order" I actually don't know how to write the dot file so that they are; gv seems to be a bit on crack sometimes with its rendering decisions)

You are right that is somewhat confusing - the intention is "previous ruler" "title of ruler" "next ruler" (so far as the database knows who is previous/next), but it doesn't seem so clear now I think about it without knowing what I meant! Maybe it needs labels.

(It's plural because some people have >1, maybe it could be singular where singular... )

[emperor]

I think a table-layout would be helpful, a bit like WP does, so:

_____________________________________________
|Previous  | Lord High Protoss | Next       |
|==========|                   |============|
|Bob Smith |                   | Fred Smith |
|-------------------------------------------|

[pavanne.livejournal.com]

That's very cool!

[lethargic-man.livejournal.com]

Nicolae Ceaușescu had a brother also named Nicolae because his father was too drunk to think of another name.

[rochvelleth.livejournal.com]

I think this is an awesome project! And love the evidence for crazy onomastic stability.

I think I had two co-existing great aunts (who were sisters) called Anne, one usually going by Nancy to tell thm apart.

[naath.livejournal.com]

I think in general people would have had different nick-names that would distinguish them, but the lack of name-diversity is quite striking in some families.

[rochvelleth.livejournal.com]

I suppose this is something that can happen easily in a binomial tradition that's drawing on a relatively limited pool for first names but has useful things like patronyms and occupation names and so on. It will also be interesting to see whether the lack of diversity in names is equal when comparing men's and women's names.

[naath.livejournal.com]

It's a bit hard to tell, I've got a lot of names... but the "top" names are very common. I suppose "people who have relatives of the same name" is an interesting question I could try to work out how to ask the database.

[pavanne.livejournal.com]

The one that sticks in my mind is Henry the Impotent.