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Died on this day in 1554 aged 18 Queen Jane of England(my toy,wikipedia).

Jane was the grand-daughter of the sister of Henry VIII. When Edward VI died with no children you might think his sister (Mary) was the obvious heir - but both Mary and Elizabeth had been declared illegitimate when their mothers' marriages to Henry had been annulled, although they had also been restored to the succession by Act of Parliament. The other options were the children of Henry's sisters Margaret and Mary (who were both dead) , Margaret is the ancestor of James who was eventually King of England - I don't know why she (well, her children) were excluded from the English succession, probably because they were Catholic and Edward wanted England to remain Protestant (also possibly because "union with Scotland" seemed bad). Mary's daughter Frances was also left out (I don't know why, she was Protestant, and in England, married to an English noble); Jane being married to Guildford Dudley the son of the Duke of Northumberland might have been part of it. Jane was only 17 when Edward died and she was told he had made her his successor. She (famously) got to be Queen for only 9 days before Mary showed up with an army and a lot of public support. Jane was arrested for treason, and held in the tower; allegedly it was at the urging of Philip (who was to marry Mary) that she was eventually executed. Jane was highly educated, and a convinced protestant to the end.

Born on this day in 1074 to Henry IV, Holy Roman Emperor and Bertha of Savoy, King Conrad II of Italy(my toy,wikipedia). Conrad's brother was married to Matilda (or Maud) who fought (and lost to) Stephen. From skimming the wikipedia article I see two other women called Matilda who were important in his life. Apparently every other woman in the 11th century was called Matilda. This is very confusing.

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Date: 2015-02-13 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pling.livejournal.com
If I remember my watching/reading correctly (even if I've forgotten the source) I think Edward drew up a definitive list of heirs at some point before he died. As he was quite the zealot he was very keen to avoid having a Catholic monarch after himself - hence the skipping over of Margaret's Scottish offspring (Mary Queen of Scots), it wasn't till James VI's birth that there was a Protestant on the Scottish throne and that's in Elizabeth I's reign. I don't think it was just his religious principles tho. As I said I can't remember the source of my info, but I'm pretty sure it was a TV programme and I think it showed us the actual document that Edward produced - it stated that Jane's male heirs (or her sister's) were to inherit. I think along with the religious requirements he didn't want a woman on the throne either, it's just that when he died that they had to find someone and there just weren't any men available. So they went for as close as possible to the wishes of Edward (also to the wishes of Jane's father-in-law who was on the council making the decision iirc).

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Date: 2015-02-13 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naath.livejournal.com
Edward clearly wanted to avoid the Catholic Mary, and could use her illegitimacy as the reason but could not reasonably claim Mary was illegitimate (and thus barred from the succession) but Elizabeth was not.

The Descendants of Margaret Tudor were Catholic and Scottish, but neither of those things would be good official reasons to pass them over; I don't know what the legal reasoning was to justify this although "our army is bigger than the Scottish army" might have been sufficient reason. Henry Lord Darnley even had the advantage of being male. Eventually James, son of Mary and Henry became King anyway.

Frances and Eleonore (daughters of Mary Tudor; Eleonore was deceased) and their daughters all had the advantage of being Protestant and English, Frances was the older sister; perhaps the decision to choose Jane over Frances was because Jane might be more likely to have sons (although Frances had another daughter in 1555 so clearly wasn't incapable of having a son she might have been thought to old).

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